Easynet to discontinue Usenet newsgroup feeds

[Dave]

Please be advised that with effect from 1st January 2005, Easynet will
stop providing a Usenet newsgroup facility to its customers. This
includes Easynet, Zoom, UK Online and related ISPs. Customers will be
unable to access or post to groups from this date via any of our ISP
services.
The number of our customers using groups has declined over a number of
years making it no longer economic to support these services. Access to
groups are however available at a low cost or free elsewhere from other
specialist newgroup providers. Examples include Google Groups
www.google.co.uk/groups or Giganews www.giganews.com

That's a damn shame. I've been browsing a varied selection of
newsgroups using Agent for quite a few years now. At first I thought
you were just dumping your own easynet groups but you're actually
shutting down your servers. It's so sad.

Is there going to be a corresponding reduction in the monthly fee I
pay, I wonder...

Dave.


2180 hi-resolution photos especially Edinburgh &
Scotland. Also 3D rendered art & altered images.
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[Kamal Shaker]

Post by Dave

The number of our customers using groups has declined over a number of
years making it no longer economic to support these services. Access to
groups are however available at a low cost or free elsewhere from other
specialist newgroup providers. Examples include Google Groups
www.google.co.uk/groups or Giganews www.giganews.com

That's a damn shame. I've been browsing a varied selection of
newsgroups using Agent for quite a few years now. At first I thought
you were just dumping your own easynet groups but you're actually
shutting down your servers. It's so sad.

Yes, considering one of the main reason I pay the extra for my ADSL
(more than double!) was for the excellent news feed, with that going,
I'll probably be looking elsewhere, and hopefully get twice the
bandwidth for half the price.

Post by Dave
Is there going to be a corresponding reduction in the monthly fee I
pay, I wonder...

[ChrisH]

Post by Dave

Please be advised that with effect from 1st January 2005, Easynet will
stop providing a Usenet newsgroup facility to its customers. This
includes Easynet, Zoom, UK Online and related ISPs. Customers will be
unable to access or post to groups from this date via any of our ISP
services.
The number of our customers using groups has declined over a number of
years making it no longer economic to support these services. Access to
groups are however available at a low cost or free elsewhere from other
specialist newgroup providers. Examples include Google Groups
www.google.co.uk/groups or Giganews www.giganews.com

That's a damn shame. I've been browsing a varied selection of
newsgroups using Agent for quite a few years now. At first I thought
you were just dumping your own easynet groups but you're actually
shutting down your servers. It's so sad.
Is there going to be a corresponding reduction in the monthly fee I
pay, I wonder...
Dave.

I guess it's goodbye Easynet then. They could have provided more
notice than that though!!

ChrisH

[Jeff McGhie]

Post by Dave

Please be advised that with effect from 1st January 2005, Easynet will
stop providing a Usenet newsgroup facility to its customers. This
includes Easynet, Zoom, UK Online and related ISPs. Customers will be
unable to access or post to groups from this date via any of our ISP
services.
The number of our customers using groups has declined over a number of
years making it no longer economic to support these services. Access to
groups are however available at a low cost or free elsewhere from other
specialist newgroup providers. Examples include Google Groups
www.google.co.uk/groups or Giganews www.giganews.com

That's a damn shame. I've been browsing a varied selection of
newsgroups using Agent for quite a few years now. At first I thought
you were just dumping your own easynet groups but you're actually
shutting down your servers. It's so sad.
Is there going to be a corresponding reduction in the monthly fee I
pay, I wonder...
Dave.

The original posting from this isn't on the newsgroup as far as I can see,
was this emailed out to you Dave ? Not had a copy myself yet.

Don't suppose anyone from Easynet (Matt?) is going to respond ?????

Bit of a shame, the only reason the account is still live is the access to
the NG's.

Jeff.

[Dave]

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:25:03 -0000, "Jeff McGhie"

Post by Jeff McGhie

Please be advised that with effect from 1st January 2005, Easynet will
stop providing a Usenet newsgroup facility to its customers.

[snip]

Post by Jeff McGhie
The original posting from this isn't on the newsgroup as far as I can see,
was this emailed out to you Dave ? Not had a copy myself yet.

No it wasn't emailed to me. The weird thing is the original message
has vanished from my copy of Agent... Now how is that possible?

Post by Jeff McGhie
Don't suppose anyone from Easynet (Matt?) is going to respond ?????
Bit of a shame, the only reason the account is still live is the access to
the NG's.
Jeff.

Easynet hosts my website and I've held them to their original promise
of unlimited webspace. I see that new customers get a paltry few
megabytes. My feed to the internet is via Blueyonder; the main reason
I've stuck with Easynet so long is the website and the reliable
service.

I've considered switching ISP for the hosting - any recommendations?
I'm paying Easynet about £11 per month on top of the £25 per month for
Blueyonder. I'm sure I could save some cash if Easynet's service is
being cut to the bone.

Dave.


2180 hi-resolution photos especially Edinburgh &
Scotland. Also 3D rendered art & altered images.
* No advertisements * http://www.henniker.org.uk

[ChrisH]

Post by Dave
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:25:03 -0000, "Jeff McGhie"

Post by Jeff McGhie

Please be advised that with effect from 1st January 2005, Easynet will
stop providing a Usenet newsgroup facility to its customers.

[snip]

Post by Jeff McGhie
The original posting from this isn't on the newsgroup as far as I can see,
was this emailed out to you Dave ? Not had a copy myself yet.

No it wasn't emailed to me. The weird thing is the original message
has vanished from my copy of Agent... Now how is that possible?

I would really like confirmation of this situation, I did not see the
original newgroup message and have not received any email about it.
If this is real I have a lot of work to do, so the sooner I know the
better.

ChrisH

[Anthony Edwards]

Post by ChrisH
I would really like confirmation of this situation, I did not see the
original newgroup message and have not received any email about it.
If this is real I have a lot of work to do, so the sooner I know the
better.

The announcement was not made by email, but by means of postings to
both easynet.announce & ukonline.announce. I can confirm that the
announcement is genuine.

[ChrisH]

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:46:57 -0000, Anthony Edwards

Post by Anthony Edwards

Post by ChrisH
I would really like confirmation of this situation, I did not see the
original newgroup message and have not received any email about it.
If this is real I have a lot of work to do, so the sooner I know the
better.

The announcement was not made by email, but by means of postings to
both easynet.announce & ukonline.announce. I can confirm that the
announcement is genuine.

So "95%" of your users are not even being made aware of fundemental
changes being made to their account services then? Don't you think
they deserve to know?

ChrisH

[l***@yahoo.co.uk]

Post by ChrisH

Post by Anthony Edwards
The announcement was not made by email, but by means of postings to
both easynet.announce & ukonline.announce. I can confirm that the
announcement is genuine.

So "95%" of your users are not even being made aware of fundemental
changes being made to their account services then? Don't you think
they deserve to know?

UK Online users received the announcement by e-mail. The poor suckers
received it on the 23rd December, about 1 week notice! I wonder why
the other Easynet group ISPs didn't do the same?

["MikeB" <[e-mail]>]

I Don't believe it! (As Victor Meldrew)
I've placed my new order, around the same time as this post, and now I've
actually found this post!!!!!!!!!

OK, newsgroup use may well have dwindled, even I'm not that regular anymore,
but what nnoys me most is that i've jumped ship from an excellent ISP
(Nildram), to one that just doesn't seem to transparrent in what service is
exactly being provided.
Scared to imagine what i'm going to find out next.

Please be advised that with effect from 1st January 2005, Easynet will
stop providing a Usenet newsgroup facility to its customers. This
includes Easynet, Zoom, UK Online and related ISPs. Customers will be
unable to access or post to groups from this date via any of our ISP
services.
The number of our customers using groups has declined over a number of
years making it no longer economic to support these services. Access to
groups are however available at a low cost or free elsewhere from other
specialist newgroup providers. Examples include Google Groups
www.google.co.uk/groups or Giganews www.giganews.com
Regards,
Easynet Support.

[ChrisH]

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:00:18 -0000, "MikeB"

Post by "MikeB" <***@msn.com>
I Don't believe it! (As Victor Meldrew)
I've placed my new order, around the same time as this post, and now I've
actually found this post!!!!!!!!!
OK, newsgroup use may well have dwindled, even I'm not that regular anymore,
but what nnoys me most is that i've jumped ship from an excellent ISP
(Nildram), to one that just doesn't seem to transparrent in what service is
exactly being provided.
Scared to imagine what i'm going to find out next.

Newsgroup use 'dwindled' because the service was run down to the point
where it was unusable. Many people left or, like me, took out a
separate subscription and simply used Easynet's service for scanning
headers and posting to text-based groups only. I retained my Easynet
subscription because my website was entrenched on Easynet's servers,
the web address was well known to my users and the scripting worked.
However, to be told at short notice (less than 1 month) that the news
service will be suspended without even any reduction of charges is the
final straw and now I must move elsewhere despite the hassle.

The real issue is that home users like us are an embarrassment to
Easynet, they see their core business in the corporate sector. Those
remaining who did not drift away naturally are now effectively getting
another push.

You would be better served looking for a different provider.

ChrisH

[Anthony Edwards]

Post by ChrisH
The real issue is that home users like us are an embarrassment to
Easynet, they see their core business in the corporate sector. Those
remaining who did not drift away naturally are now effectively getting
another push.

This certainly isn't true, and in fact the exact opposite is the case.
Our wholly owned UK Online "Virtual ISP" brand is currently the focus
of a good deal of marketing activity, and Easynet Connect (the new
name for easynet Dial) has recently been revamped, with the aim of
making it more attractive to both residential and corporate users.

News is, sadly, an anachronism though. It is one of the most expensive
services to provide, and one of the least used. The hardware and
bandwidth requirements of a full Usenet feed are astronomical (and
continue to increase daily), and the human resource requirement
required to deliver an excellent news service is similarly high.

Compare and contrast news with mail and web space. Every Internet
user (or almost every Internet user) uses their ISP's mail service,
so that is absolutely critical. A high proportion of Internet
users use their ISP's web space provision for individual accounts,
particularly since readily available and easy to use web authoring
tools have become commonplace (Microsoft Office's "Save as HTML"
functionality being a prime example).

Probably less than 5% of Internet users use news, and yet news
is (compared to mail and web space) probably the most difficult,
and arguably the most expensive (certainly more expensive than web
space) to provide. I predict that within the next 2-5 years no UK
ISP will provide Usenet services as part of residential or corporate
connectivity packages, and will leave news to acknowledged specialists
such as Supernews, Giganews, Newsguy et al.

[Jeff McGhie]

Post by Anthony Edwards

Post by Anthony Edwards
News is, sadly, an anachronism though. It is one of the most expensive

services to provide, and one of the least used.

I predict that within the next 2-5 years no UK

Post by Anthony Edwards
ISP will provide Usenet services as part of residential or corporate
connectivity packages, and will leave news to acknowledged specialists
such as Supernews, Giganews, Newsguy et al.

That's one point of view certainly, perhaps dropping the binaries might have
been a more acceptable compromise but can you honestly say that 8 real
working days notice of such a change is acceptable.

I don't and have cancelled my easynet account.

Jeff.

[ChrisH]

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:00:57 -0000, "Jeff McGhie"

Post by Jeff McGhie
That's one point of view certainly, perhaps dropping the binaries might have
been a more acceptable compromise but can you honestly say that 8 real
working days notice of such a change is acceptable.
I don't and have cancelled my easynet account.
Jeff.

You might not see this reply then :-)

Dropping the binaries is NOT an acceptable compromise, that is what we
are (were) paying for. Easynet's bean counters have come to the
conclusion that

"Hey, look, only 5% of our users are making real use of the news
service, if we dump that we only lose maybe 5% of our accounts and
save a bundle on running costs! We can still charge the suckers the
same amount and the other 95% won't notice the difference! (Especially
if we don't even tell them - lets just put a quick note on the
(unsupported) newsgroup and leave it at that)"

Jeez, are they transparent or what?

ChrisH

[ChrisH]

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:19:35 -0000, Anthony Edwards

Post by Anthony Edwards

Post by ChrisH
The real issue is that home users like us are an embarrassment to
Easynet, they see their core business in the corporate sector. Those
remaining who did not drift away naturally are now effectively getting
another push.

This certainly isn't true, and in fact the exact opposite is the case.
Our wholly owned UK Online "Virtual ISP" brand is currently the focus
of a good deal of marketing activity, and Easynet Connect (the new
name for easynet Dial) has recently been revamped, with the aim of
making it more attractive to both residential and corporate users.

Unfortunate for you then because you're going to have a tough time
attracting any residential customers.

Post by Anthony Edwards
News is, sadly, an anachronism though. It is one of the most expensive
services to provide, and one of the least used. The hardware and
bandwidth requirements of a full Usenet feed are astronomical (and
continue to increase daily), and the human resource requirement
required to deliver an excellent news service is similarly high.

Well that makes no sense in the light of:
a) not passing on the savings of not providing 'the most expensive
services' through a reduction in account fees, and
b) the comment in the announcement that such services can be had
elsewhere 'Cheaply or free'

The 'human resource requirement' used to be Rob, who you, er, let go.
Seems to me you were getting it cheap enough.

Post by Anthony Edwards
Compare and contrast news with mail and web space. Every Internet
user (or almost every Internet user) uses their ISP's mail service,
so that is absolutely critical. A high proportion of Internet
users use their ISP's web space provision for individual accounts,
particularly since readily available and easy to use web authoring
tools have become commonplace (Microsoft Office's "Save as HTML"
functionality being a prime example).

You're losing track. In these days of endless Spam most people use
'free' email accounts (Yahoo etc) , possibly in addition to the
ISP-based account, or use a service that provides easy access to
multiple (and disposable) email addresses. An ISP-based email account
is nowhere near as important as it used to be.

Post by Anthony Edwards
Probably less than 5% of Internet users use news, and yet news
is (compared to mail and web space) probably the most difficult,
and arguably the most expensive (certainly more expensive than web
space) to provide. I predict that within the next 2-5 years no UK
ISP will provide Usenet services as part of residential or corporate
connectivity packages, and will leave news to acknowledged specialists
such as Supernews, Giganews, Newsguy et al.

Of course News is expensive - you charge an expensive fee for the
priviledge of using it! Do you really think people are going to buy
your product as it now stands (an email address and a bit of webspace
- both of which can be had elsewhere cheaper) for the same price AND
pay extra for a decent news service? Do you really??

ChrisH

[Barry Dorrans]

Post by Anthony Edwards
News is, sadly, an anachronism though. It is one of the most
expensive services to provide, and one of the least used. The
hardware and
bandwidth requirements of a full Usenet feed are astronomical (and
continue to increase daily), and the human resource requirement
required to deliver an excellent news service is similarly high.

So we'll see a corresponding drop in our monthly connection fee then?

Post by Anthony Edwards
Compare and contrast news with mail and web space. Every Internet
user (or almost every Internet user) uses their ISP's mail service,
so that is absolutely critical. A high proportion of Internet
users use their ISP's web space provision for individual accounts,
particularly since readily available and easy to use web authoring
tools have become commonplace (Microsoft Office's "Save as HTML"
functionality being a prime example).

Funny, as my business connection didn't come with web space, or email
accounts. So you weren't offering that to me anyway.

[Yas]

Not sure how many people will actually get to read this... just decided to
have a look at easynet.support list out of curiosity :)

my 2 penny worth :)

Well i am an ex-easynet employee (with in the services support team), i
left Easynet around July... This announcement comes as no surprise to me.
Soon after Rob left (who was doing a grand job running news) there was
discussions about scrapping usenet. Rob was the sole news admin, no one
else in the company had the same skills as him to manage Usenet. There
were attempts to pass on support of usenet to my ex team (specifically to
one of my ex colleague). The problem was that Rob, as the sole owner of
news, had tinkered with the system *SO* much that it became near
impossible for anyone to take over and not have his/her hair fall out
(With very little Documentation).... My ex colleague was very experienced
guy in SysAdmin, with over 10 years experience in Unix, he was more than
capable of managing News...but since the system was so individualised with
so many custom scripts (mainly written in ruby, Rob's language of choice)
doing all sorts of magic, it became a losing battle.... Also from a
manpower point of view, my ex team had some much work to do, it was very
difficult to spend time learning. The service just became (well when i was
there) unmanageable.

Also in terms of economics... News is VERY expensive to run. As a business
it just does not make sense to continue investing in News (yes it has very
large on going costs). With number of News users decreasing
internationally... it just makes even more sense to re invest those
assests and money in to areas that really matter like Email (when i left
Easynet Email system seriously needed more investment). I personally feel
that the better decision would be to out source News to a 'proper' usenet
provider... But i knew before left, that the final nail in the coffin of
Easynet Usenet was not far away.

BTW Anthony how's things :)

[Harry Broomhall]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:27:13 +0300, Yas

Post by Yas
Not sure how many people will actually get to read this... just decided to
have a look at easynet.support list out of curiosity :)
my 2 penny worth :)

Hi there! <grin>

[SNIP]

Post by Yas
I personally feel
that the better decision would be to out source News to a 'proper' usenet
provider...

Stranger things have happened....

Regards,
Harry.

[Simon]

Post by Dave

Please be advised that with effect from 1st January 2005, Easynet will
stop providing a Usenet newsgroup facility to its customers. This
includes Easynet, Zoom, UK Online and related ISPs. Customers will be
unable to access or post to groups from this date via any of our ISP
services.
The number of our customers using groups has declined over a number of
years making it no longer economic to support these services. Access to
groups are however available at a low cost or free elsewhere from other
specialist newgroup providers. Examples include Google Groups
www.google.co.uk/groups or Giganews www.giganews.com

That's a damn shame. I've been browsing a varied selection of
newsgroups using Agent for quite a few years now. At first I thought
you were just dumping your own easynet groups but you're actually
shutting down your servers. It's so sad.
Is there going to be a corresponding reduction in the monthly fee I
pay, I wonder...
Dave.
2180 hi-resolution photos especially Edinburgh &
Scotland. Also 3D rendered art & altered images.
* No advertisements * http://www.henniker.org.uk

WHAT..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo

Yer talk about giving loads on notice.

So they cost a small fortune to administer. Well I expect a vast
reduction in our subscription costs, but guess this will NOT happen,
and will be feeding the top bosses with nice christmas bonuses as they
have found a way to cut costs, but to annoy the customers, as they
dont matter. mmmmm! oh and not to mention the share holders and their
dividend.

I was really seriously considering moving to your 8MB package in April
when it was coming to my location, but that is NOT going to happen.
Whats the point when I want fast news server access all included!

Have you ever wondered why people use Easynet. yer becasue of such a
good news server. I am still subscribing to Easynet not just for my
domain and excelent email service.. but MAINLY for the news groups
service that you offer.

I have not dialed into Easynet for about 3 years now. Access through
the crappy BT Yahoo thing. but love the Easynet news server (oh have I
said that before!!!!!)

Hay yer you say Giganews which costs $24.99 for unlimited access a
month so that is £12.92, so does that mean you will be dropping that
£12 cost from the subscription. Oh dear silly me I pay less than that
now!

It would be interesting what the ISPA says about your throries about
all UK ISP's dropping news servers within the next few years, but just
feel this is what Easynet are saying!

With dropping news server access surely this will bump up
considerablle the external bandwidth to the paid for news servers
outside your network, and then there will be the issue of expensive
bandwidth all over again, but this time at expence because all network
traffic will now be OUTSIDE your own network, unless you plan to set
up dedicated lines to the external paid for news servers and excourage
people to use that? and hence save bandwidth!

Enough of my ranting!!!!

Simon

[Per Jessen]

Please be advised that with effect from 1st January 2005, Easynet will
stop providing a Usenet newsgroup facility to its customers. This
includes Easynet, Zoom, UK Online and related ISPs. Customers will be
unable to access or post to groups from this date via any of our ISP
services.

In the future, perhaps it would be an idea to specify to which Easynet your
announcements apply? Easynet Switzerland has confirmed that they will continue
to provide news services past January 2005.
For a casual visitor it is not very clear that "easynet.announcements" somehow
is UK only.

[Ozzy]

Post by Per Jessen
In the future, perhaps it would be an idea to specify to which Easynet your
announcements apply? Easynet Switzerland has confirmed that they will continue
to provide news services past January 2005.
For a casual visitor it is not very clear that "easynet.announcements" somehow
is UK only.

I confirm : neither Belgium or France will (happily) be touched by this
restriction.
But I feel sorry for UK customers...

[Per Jessen]

Post by Ozzy
I confirm : neither Belgium or France will (happily) be touched by this
restriction. But I feel sorry for UK customers...

Of course, I'm sure easynet UK customers are welcome to use the belgian, french
or swiss easynet news site :-)
The swiss news-server is: news.ch.easynet.net

[Barry Dorrans]

Post by Per Jessen

Post by Ozzy
I confirm : neither Belgium or France will (happily) be touched by
this restriction. But I feel sorry for UK customers...

Of course, I'm sure easynet UK customers are welcome to use the
belgian, french or swiss easynet news site :-)
The swiss news-server is: news.ch.easynet.net

Hope cruelly dashed

502 : Access denied to your node - ***@news.easynet.net

[Per Jessen]

Post by Barry Dorrans

Post by Per Jessen

Post by Ozzy
I confirm : neither Belgium or France will (happily) be touched by
this restriction. But I feel sorry for UK customers...

Of course, I'm sure easynet UK customers are welcome to use the
belgian, french or swiss easynet news site :-)
The swiss news-server is: news.ch.easynet.net

Hope cruelly dashed

Hmm, pity - but fair I suppose. I should have thought of that.

[Jeff McGhie]

Post by Ozzy

Post by Per Jessen
In the future, perhaps it would be an idea to specify to which Easynet your
announcements apply? Easynet Switzerland has confirmed that they will continue
to provide news services past January 2005. For a casual visitor it is
not very clear that "easynet.announcements" somehow
is UK only.

I confirm : neither Belgium or France will (happily) be touched by this
restriction.
But I feel sorry for UK customers...

Interesting ..... since the uk.* groups are all text only presumably they
add very little to the bandwidth (and therefore cost) of running the news
servers, how can the various European branches of Easynet manage it cost
effectively if the UK cant ? Furthermore why not just take a feed from the
European server (s?) ....

All of academic interest as I've cancelled my subscription from the New Year
and gone over to Easynews for Usenet access.

Cheers
Jeff.

[Simon]

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:45:42 -0000, "Jeff McGhie"

Post by Jeff McGhie

Post by Ozzy

Post by Per Jessen
In the future, perhaps it would be an idea to specify to which Easynet your
announcements apply? Easynet Switzerland has confirmed that they will continue
to provide news services past January 2005. For a casual visitor it is
not very clear that "easynet.announcements" somehow
is UK only.

I confirm : neither Belgium or France will (happily) be touched by this
restriction.
But I feel sorry for UK customers...

Interesting ..... since the uk.* groups are all text only presumably they
add very little to the bandwidth (and therefore cost) of running the news
servers, how can the various European branches of Easynet manage it cost
effectively if the UK cant ? Furthermore why not just take a feed from the
European server (s?) ....
All of academic interest as I've cancelled my subscription from the New Year
and gone over to Easynews for Usenet access.
Cheers
Jeff.

Just to let you know that I have written to the ISPA regarding all
this! I will let you know here the reply... if I get one!

Simon

[ChrisH]

Post by Simon
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:45:42 -0000, "Jeff McGhie"

Post by Jeff McGhie

Post by Ozzy

Post by Per Jessen
In the future, perhaps it would be an idea to specify to which Easynet your
announcements apply? Easynet Switzerland has confirmed that they will continue
to provide news services past January 2005. For a casual visitor it is
not very clear that "easynet.announcements" somehow
is UK only.

I confirm : neither Belgium or France will (happily) be touched by this
restriction.
But I feel sorry for UK customers...

Interesting ..... since the uk.* groups are all text only presumably they
add very little to the bandwidth (and therefore cost) of running the news
servers, how can the various European branches of Easynet manage it cost
effectively if the UK cant ? Furthermore why not just take a feed from the
European server (s?) ....
All of academic interest as I've cancelled my subscription from the New Year
and gone over to Easynews for Usenet access.
Cheers
Jeff.

Just to let you know that I have written to the ISPA regarding all
this! I will let you know here the reply... if I get one!
Simon

Well good luck, but a reply to this group would not be useful - not
many ISPs carry the Easynet newsgroups and this one will not be
accessible via Easynet in a couple of days!

I think most people will just abandon Easynet in any case - would you
want to do business with a company that behaves in this way?

ChrisH

[Simon]

Post by ChrisH

Post by Simon
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:45:42 -0000, "Jeff McGhie"

Post by Jeff McGhie

Post by Ozzy

Post by Per Jessen
In the future, perhaps it would be an idea to specify to which Easynet your
announcements apply? Easynet Switzerland has confirmed that they will continue
to provide news services past January 2005. For a casual visitor it is
not very clear that "easynet.announcements" somehow
is UK only.

I confirm : neither Belgium or France will (happily) be touched by this
restriction.
But I feel sorry for UK customers...

Interesting ..... since the uk.* groups are all text only presumably they
add very little to the bandwidth (and therefore cost) of running the news
servers, how can the various European branches of Easynet manage it cost
effectively if the UK cant ? Furthermore why not just take a feed from the
European server (s?) ....
All of academic interest as I've cancelled my subscription from the New Year
and gone over to Easynews for Usenet access.
Cheers
Jeff.

Just to let you know that I have written to the ISPA regarding all
this! I will let you know here the reply... if I get one!
Simon

Well good luck, but a reply to this group would not be useful - not
many ISPs carry the Easynet newsgroups and this one will not be
accessible via Easynet in a couple of days!
I think most people will just abandon Easynet in any case - would you
want to do business with a company that behaves in this way?
ChrisH

Yer very trie,

For one of the best ISP's out there and VERY reliable, they are
letting us down BADLY this way.

Well just feel forry for the expensive peopel who have lost their jobs
who manage the news server, as they cant keep them, as the person said
here it is too much to keep the service going in terms of HR as
well..which measn heads will have to go :-(

And only giving us 2 weeks notive as well.. I always though the usual
.. well good business practice was 30 days!!!!

All I can guess is the top BOSSES want their bonus early!!!!!

Simon